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Posted - 2013.04.15 06:40:00 -
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Reuben Johnson wrote:"Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????" Because players in low/null/sov/wh will shoot back. Hell, they're more likely to shoot first. Gankers want easy peasy, not malis from Pend Insurance.
It's more likely that it's because most players that'd go to low sec or null, don't have big bat phones. Also it's fun when the mission bears accept duels in their 3,5B nightmares. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:29:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?
I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!
In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid. because people actually shoot back can you imagine that when you try to gank someone in low sec and they actually shoot back where is CCP taking this game I demand that CCP nerf low sec so i can grief low sec and nullsec dwwellers aswell
By shooting back do you mean lighting the cyno? |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:51:00 -
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StoneCold wrote:I like it how most (it seems) think we-Śre all looking for good fightes o_O
Def. of GF: U dead, me alive.
It would be easier to just go to rancer or so in that case. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:17:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow. Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them. Wrong. I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers. I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.
God forbid putting a tank on your mining vessel right? |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:22:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?
I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!
In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid. The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.
god forbid you actually could fight thoes "noobs", which is what your corp should do. Eve is not safe, and as long as you let people pick on you, they'll pick on you. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:44:00 -
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StoneCold wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
-rabble rabble-
The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality. I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with". Then i watched your lossboard and left satisfied. Someone else allready took care about your corp. Is it possible that your rant is fueled by butthurtness? Btw, just because i think you might want to be interrested in bulk-charon-deals: WTS Charons.
just stupid. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145 |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:10:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.
Kane will just show up alone and win... that's how he does it. :p |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:25:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Newbies don't fly around in pimped out 3 billion isk mission running ships.
Baddies do that.
i second that. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17246088 he accepted a duel and red boxed me on the undock.... then he may have gotten bumped off. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:29:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Newbies don't fly around in pimped out 3 billion isk mission running ships.
Of course they do. Well, IRL financially comfortable n00bs do.
So you bought that amount of plex to bling out your mission boat, and ignore the pop up box about going into low sec? |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:46:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote: Not wishing to go off on a tangent, but how exactly are they better? I CBA looking at the KM again, but there were 4 or 5 IIRC - if they were better why not just attack me 1v1? Because they didn't want to lose of course.
the main problem of Eve Online (IMO) is: to be successful in EVe Online you need to be coward (evading losses), trustless (corp/alliance theft), choose weakest (killmails don't smell) and all such stuff.
No. Evading losses is a smart way of playing depending on how you play it. If 7 dudes show up on my doorstep and i'm solo i'm not gonna engage, that's choosing to be smart. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 10:49:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right. CCP are nerfing the macks tank this summer. Well done. Your constant whining (along with other pixel hard-men) about the cost of ganking seems to have paid off. What do you mean? they buffed them in first place because of carebears, it was great as it was tbh. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:09:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:In some way I actually agree with the OP but only the part were it is too easy for people to suicide gank using small fast ships when they are already -10 sec status and they can do this without any sort of repercussions. There are people who's whole game play consists of boarding a new destroyer, and then flying to a gate and randomly ganking people in shuttles or other soft targets, or flying to a belt and ganking mining ships.
I think that is unbalanced, unfair and very lame, there should be a limit to how much you can get away with within a set amount of time because in reality no law abiding NPC corp is going to let a known terrorist repeatedly use its stations as a base for their activities.
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Commit acts of terrorism in highsec, then the criminal flag should also prevent these people from redocking, obviously only temporarily but long enough that it creates a logistics problem for the gankers.
Thoes people that gank use Orcas to get into new ships. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:41:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:LittleTerror wrote:culo duro wrote:LittleTerror wrote:In some way I actually agree with the OP but only the part were it is too easy for people to suicide gank using small fast ships when they are already -10 sec status and they can do this without any sort of repercussions. There are people who's whole game play consists of boarding a new destroyer, and then flying to a gate and randomly ganking people in shuttles or other soft targets, or flying to a belt and ganking mining ships.
I think that is unbalanced, unfair and very lame, there should be a limit to how much you can get away with within a set amount of time because in reality no law abiding NPC corp is going to let a known terrorist repeatedly use its stations as a base for their activities.
TL;DR
Commit acts of terrorism in highsec, then the criminal flag should also prevent these people from redocking, obviously only temporarily but long enough that it creates a logistics problem for the gankers. Thoes people that gank use Orcas to get into new ships. then those orcas are aiding them and should be flagged. where's the crime in ejecting a ship from the smb?
Rather how would you work that out? It would be impossible. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:11:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:Miilla wrote:Why do you rob banks? Because that is where the money is.
Why do you gank in highsec? Because that is where the money is. Yeah but it should not be so ridiculously easy.
Tank your ship, it's not 'That easy' if you'd tank your ship. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:15:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:culo duro wrote:LittleTerror wrote:Miilla wrote:Why do you rob banks? Because that is where the money is.
Why do you gank in highsec? Because that is where the money is. Yeah but it should not be so ridiculously easy. Tank your ship, it's not 'That easy' if you'd tank your ship. Yeah but it would be better if I could gank the ganker before they commit more crimes, you can argue for your cushy play style till you're blue in the face, its still broken imo.
It's very possible to do so, it's commonly refeered to as drones. Some Warrior IIs will crush that poor little gank ship. |
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:56:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Reuben Johnson wrote:"Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????" Because players in low/null/sov/wh will shoot back. Hell, they're more likely to shoot first. Gankers want easy peasy, not malis from Pend Insurance. And yet soooo many more people die in null to other people shooting them than they do in high sec (7 times as many according to ccp, despite the fact that null has 1/8th or so the population of high sec). High sec liars always say "null is so boring, thats why gankers exists" but thats bs, there is plenty of pvp in null sec and the facts are evidence of this. No, ganking happens because thats where the lazy fat cats are. Stop being lazy fat cats, watch ganking die.
There's probably not any ganking in low sec because people don't get concorded there... Some people think it's fun, some don't. There's plenty of fights in null and low, but what it ends up being about is who's got the bigger batphone... unless you decide to join a Null Block or a pirate alliance, you don't have a chance of the pirate life... or you're going to have to choose a system way off grid from everyone.
Do. The. Math. |
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